Is Woodstock project abandoned?

[minoleg]

Hi all,

Usually you see the Woodstock releases every two weeks. And
there were no releases for more then a month. So I am just
wondering whether Sun abandoned this project.

I tried to post the same question on Woodstock forum and I did not get an answer for two weeks. I know Woodstock is the heart of visual web development in Netbeans. So I hope somebody will answer my question.

Thanks,
Oleg

[Glenn Holmer]

On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 20:50 +0000, minoleg wrote:

[jyeary]

It is my understanding that the final status is to be determined. It is a valuable project and is the best visual JSF development platform out there. Please post your interest in the project to Sun and the NetBeans team.

John

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Glenn Holmer <address-removed ([email]address-removed[/email])> wrote:

[Sean Chen]

That's unfortunate. visual jsf is definitely nice, even though it
can't compare to .NET yet.

Not sure if the economy has anything to do with it.

Sean

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 8:21 PM, John Yeary <address-removed> wrote:

[Wade Chandler]

My understanding is that Visual JSF support will still be in NetBeans, but Woodstock isn't going to be the library. I don't know what the alternative is, but there are plenty of APIs implementing the specification out there, and open-source to boot. So, in that regard, Sun not maintaining the JSF library and keeping the support in NB makes pretty good sense. Now, depending on what happens with the library I don't know, but there is source code to take over,and depending on what one sees as the greatest work or risk could implement the needed features in Woodstock instead of converting the entire application I suppose.

Wade

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[bardu]

After pushing SUN (NetBeans) for almost 3 months for clarification on the future of Woodstock we finally now know that is not going to be the library of choice.

For developers, like me, who use VWP and Woodstock in production it is important to know which component library NB will support in the future. If it is a complete new one than I have to live with that, but is it an existing one, such as ICEFaces, SUN (NetBeans) should let us know now, so we can consider this for new projects.

Regards,
Stephan

[Luis Molina- IPI]

its so sad to hear this, im thinking in moving from .net to visual web java
and how can i sell the idea to my boss if i dont know the next month how it
will be?, and another question why dont copy the master pages idea from
.net, they are so much better that the jspf (page fragments) its a bad idea
the page fragments and better if you see it now ....


----- Original Message -----
From: "bardu" <address-removed>
To: <address-removed>
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 2:42 AM
Subject: [work] [nbj2ee] Is Woodstock project abandoned?

[Glenn Holmer]

On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 20:01 -0700, Wade Chandler wrote:

[Wade Chandler]

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[sitongia]

Wade Chandler wrote:

[Glenn Holmer]

On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 09:05 -0700, Leonard Sitongia wrote:

[sitongia]

Glenn Holmer wrote:

[mike_devlearner]

Hi, I am a newbie!
ICEfaces is the current API for jsf implementation?

Is it better than the Woodstock? Will we have an official answer from
SUN wich API will be supported?

[Glenn Holmer]

On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 20:03 +0000, mike_devlearner wrote:

[smaryka]

I just wanted to bring everyone up to date with what is going on in the ICEfaces project related to NetBeans and Woodstock. We are committed to providing a comprehensive migration strategy from Woodstock to ICEfaces. While it will take some time for this strategy to completely unfold, we have specific integration within ICEfaces 1.7.2SP1 (available week of Nov/28.) and NetBeans 6.5 that will support the following features:

- Ability to add ICEfaces to an existing Woodstock project.
- Ability to add ICEfaces visual design pages to an existing Woodstock application.
- Ability to define navigation between ICEfaces and Woodstock pages.

This represents the foundation of the migration strategy, and allows developers to maintain their existing Woodstock applications, and begin to incorporate ICEfaces. The next piece is to provide support for migrating Woodstock pages to ICEfaces. The intention here is NOT to support the entire Woodstock component suite within ICEfaces but provide a comprehensive strategy to port pages across. There are a number of aspects to this including:

- Identify a set of existing Woodstock components that will work "as is" in an ICEfaces page.
- Identify a set of priority components from Woodstock (as defined by community interest) that will be ported to ICEfaces.
- Provide utilities that will aid developers in porting Woodstock pages to ICEfaces.
- Provide documentation that assists developers in the porting process.

Clearly, not all of this can be ready for our next release, but we will deliver incremental capabilities in subsequent ICEfaces releases. We will strive to make as many resources available to the community in as timely a manner possible. I hope this helps the Woodstock community make informed decisions about dealing with the end-of-life plans for Woodstock. I will post to this thread again as soon as we have something tangible for everyone to work with. In the meanwhile get yourself registered with the ICEfaces community at http://www.icefaces.org and start getting up to speed with ICEfaces. We are excited to welcome new members to the community.

Talk to everyone again real soon...
Steve Maryka
CTO, ICEsoft Technologies