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farzadmehr
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 Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:31 pm Post subject: Why Netbeans 6.8 does not have visual web jsf? |
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Hi
Netbeans IDE 6.5.x Have Visual web java server face frame work .
it is very good.
Netbeans IDE 6.7.1 Have visual web JSF with Plugin , ok , it is good.
but in new release (Netbeans IDE 6.8 visual web java server face framework Deleted)
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jyeary
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:09 pm Post subject: Re: Why Netbeans 6.8 does not have visual web jsf? |
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6.8 is beta. I am not sure what the finished product will include.
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 11:31 AM, farzadmehr <address-removed ([email]address-removed[/email])> wrote:
| Quote: | Hi
Netbeans IDE 6.5.x Have Visual web java server face frame work .
it is very good.
Netbeans IDE 6.7.1 Have visual web JSF with Plugin , ok , it is good.
but in new release (Netbeans IDE 6.8 visual web java server face framework Deleted)
Why?????????????
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Jeff Rubinoff
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:27 pm Post subject: Re: Why Netbeans 6.8 does not have visual web jsf? |
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The Visual Web JSF interface is too unstable to be included in 6.8.
6.7.1 is the last version that supports it.
Jeff
farzadmehr wrote:
| Quote: | Hi
Netbeans IDE 6.5.x Have Visual web java server face frame work .
it is very good.
Netbeans IDE 6.7.1 Have visual web JSF with Plugin , ok , it is good.
but in new release (Netbeans IDE 6.8 visual web java server face framework Deleted)
Why?????????????
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Victor M. Ramirez
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: Re: Why Netbeans 6.8 does not have visual web jsf? |
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I've been worried about this issue too, because most of us, are "drag-and-drop" guys. I hope they can resolve it (and why not visual icefaces too?...)Victor M. Ramirez A.
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| Quote: | The Visual Web JSF interface is too unstable to be included in 6.8. 6.7.1 is the last version that supports it.
Jeff
farzadmehr wrote:
| Quote: | Hi
Netbeans IDE 6.5.x Have Visual web java server face frame work . it is very good.
Netbeans IDE 6.7.1 Have visual web JSF with Plugin , ok , it is good.
but in new release (Netbeans IDE 6.8 visual web java server face framework Deleted)
Why?????????????
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Christopher Lam
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:11 pm Post subject: Re: Re: Why Netbeans 6.8 does not have visual web jsf? |
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Visual Web JSF (Project Woodstock) is no longer being developed, so there won't be a Visual UI designer for JSF in Netbeans 6.8 unless ICEfaces comes up with one.
Regards,
Christopher Lam
On 24-Nov-2009, at 9:09 PM, John Yeary wrote:
| Quote: | 6.8 is beta. I am not sure what the finished product will include.
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 11:31 AM, farzadmehr <address-removed ([email]address-removed[/email])> wrote:
| Quote: | Hi
Netbeans IDE 6.5.x Have Visual web java server face frame work .
it is very good.
Netbeans IDE 6.7.1 Have visual web JSF with Plugin , ok , it is good.
but in new release (Netbeans IDE 6.8 visual web java server face framework Deleted)
Why?????????????
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"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the grey twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
-- Theodore Roosevelt
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Victor M. Ramirez
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:48 pm Post subject: Re: Re: Re: Why Netbeans 6.8 does not have visual web jsf? |
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It was not supported since 6.7, but you could still download and install it with no trouble at all, but now with 6.8 you cannot.Victor M. Ramirez A.
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2009/11/24 Christopher Lam <address-removed ([email]address-removed[/email])>
| Quote: | Visual Web JSF (Project Woodstock) is no longer being developed, so there won't be a Visual UI designer for JSF in Netbeans 6.8 unless ICEfaces comes up with one.
Regards,
Christopher Lam
On 24-Nov-2009, at 9:09 PM, John Yeary wrote:
| Quote: | 6.8 is beta. I am not sure what the finished product will include.
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 11:31 AM, farzadmehr <address-removed ([email]address-removed[/email])> wrote:
| Quote: | Hi
Netbeans IDE 6.5.x Have Visual web java server face frame work .
it is very good.
Netbeans IDE 6.7.1 Have visual web JSF with Plugin , ok , it is good.
but in new release (Netbeans IDE 6.8 visual web java server face framework Deleted)
Why?????????????
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http://javaevangelist.blogspot.com
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the grey twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
-- Theodore Roosevelt
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Jeff Rubinoff
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| Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:42 am Post subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why Netbeans 6.8 does not have visual web jsf? |
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This is because there has been no work at all on Visual Web, and the
many changes to Java EE support in 6.8 means Visual Web is not stable
for 6.8.
Jeff
Victor M. Ramirez wrote:
| Quote: | It was not supported since 6.7, but you could still download and
install it with no trouble at all, but now with 6.8 you cannot.
Victor M. Ramirez A.
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2009/11/24 Christopher Lam <address-removed
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Visual Web JSF (Project Woodstock) is no longer being developed,
so there won't be a Visual UI designer for JSF in Netbeans 6.8
unless ICEfaces comes up with one.
Regards,
*Christopher Lam*
On 24-Nov-2009, at 9:09 PM, John Yeary wrote:
| Quote: | 6.8 is beta. I am not sure what the finished product will include.
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 11:31 AM, farzadmehr
<address-removed <mailto:address-removed>> wrote:
Hi
Netbeans IDE 6.5.x Have Visual web java server face frame work .
it is very good.
Netbeans IDE 6.7.1 Have visual web JSF with Plugin , ok , it
is good.
but in new release (Netbeans IDE 6.8 visual web java server
face framework Deleted)
Why?????????????
--
John Yeary
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http://javaevangelist.blogspot.com
<http://javaevangelist.blogspot.com/>
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious
triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank
with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much,
because they live in the grey twilight that knows not victory nor
defeat."
-- Theodore Roosevelt
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Andreas Hesse
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| Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:50 am Post subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why Netbeans 6.8 does not have visual web jsf? |
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k, thats it.
No need to stick to NB anymore.
Unsubcribing and enjoying coding now.
BB
Ex-SCSNI Andreas
Jeff Rubinoff schrieb:
| Quote: | This is because there has been no work at all on Visual Web, and the
many changes to Java EE support in 6.8 means Visual Web is not stable
for 6.8.
Jeff
Victor M. Ramirez wrote:
| Quote: | It was not supported since 6.7, but you could still download and
install it with no trouble at all, but now with 6.8 you cannot.
Victor M. Ramirez A.
Ingeniero de Sistemas
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2009/11/24 Christopher Lam <address-removed
<mailto:address-removed>>
Visual Web JSF (Project Woodstock) is no longer being developed,
so there won't be a Visual UI designer for JSF in Netbeans 6.8
unless ICEfaces comes up with one.
Regards,
*Christopher Lam*
On 24-Nov-2009, at 9:09 PM, John Yeary wrote:
| Quote: | 6.8 is beta. I am not sure what the finished product will include.
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 11:31 AM, farzadmehr
<address-removed <mailto:address-removed>> wrote:
Hi
Netbeans IDE 6.5.x Have Visual web java server face frame
work .
it is very good.
Netbeans IDE 6.7.1 Have visual web JSF with Plugin , ok , it
is good.
but in new release (Netbeans IDE 6.8 visual web java server
face framework Deleted)
Why?????????????
-- John Yeary
--
http://javaevangelist.blogspot.com
<http://javaevangelist.blogspot.com/>
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious
triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank
with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much,
because they live in the grey twilight that knows not victory nor
defeat."
-- Theodore Roosevelt
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geraldolmr
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| It's a real pity. We live in a visual era, after all. It's a bad idea to abandom visual web development pack project. First was the E-R diagramming tool, now the visual pack is cut off. I think the NB guys have something against visual tools. |
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Melongo Annabel
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| Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:33 pm Post subject: Re: Why Netbeans 6.8 does not have visual web jsf? |
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FYI, the ER diagramming tool is now candidate for implementation. It hasn't been abandoned.
From: geraldolmr <address-removed>
To: address-removed
Sent: Sat, November 28, 2009 6:07:48 AM
Subject: [nbj2ee] Why Netbeans 6.8 does not have visual web jsf?
It's a real pity. We live in a visual era, after all. It's a bad idea to abandom visual web development pack project. Fist was the E-R diagramming tool, now the visual pack is cut off. I think the NB guys have something agaist visual tools. |
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Jeff Rubinoff
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| Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:37 pm Post subject: Re: Why Netbeans 6.8 does not have visual web jsf? |
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geraldolmr wrote:
| Quote: | It's a real pity. We live in a visual era, after all. It's a bad idea to abandom visual web development pack project. Fist was the E-R diagramming tool, now the visual pack is cut off. I think the NB guys have something agaist visual tools.
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geraldomir,
Nope, we love visual tools, we just don't have the resources to keep
developing them. They turn out to be very, very resource intensive to
develop. However, if you have access to some venture capital and 12 or
15 Java engineers, I'm sure we could arrange something... :-)
Jeff |
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Glenn Holmer
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| Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:37 pm Post subject: Re: Why Netbeans 6.8 does not have visual web jsf? |
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On Sat, 2009-11-28 at 12:07 +0000, geraldolmr wrote:
| Quote: | It's a real pity. We live in a visual era, after all. It's a bad idea
to abandom visual web development pack project. Fist was the E-R
diagramming tool, now the visual pack is cut off. I think the NB guys
have something agaist visual tools.
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Antonio Varela
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| Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:18 pm Post subject: Re: Why Netbeans 6.8 does not have visual web jsf? |
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On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Glenn Holmer <address-removed> wrote:
Good point. Furthermore, in many ASP.NET web projects, what you see
in the design view isn't by far what you expect to see in runtime.
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Victor M. Ramirez
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| Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: Why Netbeans 6.8 does not have visual web jsf? |
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I think it's a little bit traumatic, at the beguinning because we all "GUI-lovers" are used to this method. I hope we won't have "big troubles" on the movin' =P
Victor M. Ramirez A.
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2009/11/30 Antonio Varela <address-removed ([email]address-removed[/email])>
| Quote: | On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Glenn Holmer <address-removed ([email]address-removed[/email])> wrote:
Good point. Furthermore, in many ASP.NET web projects, what you see
in the design view isn't by far what you expect to see in runtime.
Best regards,
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gasdia73
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| Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:21 am Post subject: |
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Just want to let you know that I'm not going to bother downloading 6.8..
Right now I see lot's of effort and improvements in usless things to me.
I'm sticking to 6.5 at work, that's sad and disappointing.... |
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