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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:11 pm Post subject: Intellij Idea user wants to switch.... |
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Hi,
I am a user of IntelliJ Idea since many, many years.
The most important part for me is the really great editor: It is really
smart and offers great refactoring possibilities.
That editor saves me a bunch of key presses. It enables me to create
code a lot faster than those guys using Eclipse around me.
There is just one problem with Idea: It is not free. And at the moment I
try to only work with free (as in speech) software.
The last (important) step remaining is my IDE.
So now my question:
Are there some users who switched to Netbeans from Idea? What
experiences did you make with the Netbeans editor?
I have read, that it has improved greatly since 5.0. But I am still
missing some important features (e.g. "complete statement").
Is there any chance that it will improve further and reach eye level
with Idea?
What about refactorings? Compared to Idea?
Don't get me wrong: Netbeans is a great tool with many very useful
plugins that are much better than Idea... But the editor is so great...
And I really want to switch.
So any hints are very welcome.
Thanks,
Johannes Schneider |
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SCWells72 Posted via mailing list.
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:43 pm Post subject: Intellij Idea user wants to switch.... |
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Take a look at the thread I created here:
http://www.nabble.com/Everyday-usage-gap-analysis-between-NetBeans-6.0-and-IntelliJ-IDEA-to14845016.html
giving a first-pass gap analysis between IDEA and NetBeans 6.0. Some of
these have been partially addressed in 6.1 and the upcoming 6.5, but
honestly, there are still some significant features missing from NetBeans
that are part of my everyday workflow in IDEA.
Having said that, I've created an IDEA keymap for NetBeans that allows an
IDEA user to be pretty comfortable there. I believe it's even part of 6.5
now, though I have a more recent version that binds additional keys based on
both oversights and some gap closure in the newer versions. I'm happy to
share it if you'd like.
Regards,
Scott
Johannes Schneider-5 wrote:
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Hi,
I am a user of IntelliJ Idea since many, many years.
The most important part for me is the really great editor: It is really
smart and offers great refactoring possibilities.
That editor saves me a bunch of key presses. It enables me to create
code a lot faster than those guys using Eclipse around me.
There is just one problem with Idea: It is not free. And at the moment I
try to only work with free (as in speech) software.
The last (important) step remaining is my IDE.
So now my question:
Are there some users who switched to Netbeans from Idea? What
experiences did you make with the Netbeans editor?
I have read, that it has improved greatly since 5.0. But I am still
missing some important features (e.g. "complete statement").
Is there any chance that it will improve further and reach eye level
with Idea?
What about refactorings? Compared to Idea?
Don't get me wrong: Netbeans is a great tool with many very useful
plugins that are much better than Idea... But the editor is so great...
And I really want to switch.
So any hints are very welcome.
Thanks,
Johannes Schneider
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Ryan de Laplante Posted via mailing list.
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:28 pm Post subject: Intellij Idea user wants to switch.... |
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I don't see the IDEA keymaps in Tools --> Options --> Keymap. Only
NetBeans, Emacs, Eclipse, NetBeans 5.5.
SCWells72 wrote:
| Quote: | Take a look at the thread I created here:
http://www.nabble.com/Everyday-usage-gap-analysis-between-NetBeans-6.0-and-IntelliJ-IDEA-to14845016.html
giving a first-pass gap analysis between IDEA and NetBeans 6.0. Some of
these have been partially addressed in 6.1 and the upcoming 6.5, but
honestly, there are still some significant features missing from NetBeans
that are part of my everyday workflow in IDEA.
Having said that, I've created an IDEA keymap for NetBeans that allows an
IDEA user to be pretty comfortable there. I believe it's even part of 6.5
now, though I have a more recent version that binds additional keys based on
both oversights and some gap closure in the newer versions. I'm happy to
share it if you'd like.
Regards,
Scott
Johannes Schneider-5 wrote:
| Quote: | Hi,
I am a user of IntelliJ Idea since many, many years.
The most important part for me is the really great editor: It is really
smart and offers great refactoring possibilities.
That editor saves me a bunch of key presses. It enables me to create
code a lot faster than those guys using Eclipse around me.
There is just one problem with Idea: It is not free. And at the moment I
try to only work with free (as in speech) software.
The last (important) step remaining is my IDE.
So now my question:
Are there some users who switched to Netbeans from Idea? What
experiences did you make with the Netbeans editor?
I have read, that it has improved greatly since 5.0. But I am still
missing some important features (e.g. "complete statement").
Is there any chance that it will improve further and reach eye level
with Idea?
What about refactorings? Compared to Idea?
Don't get me wrong: Netbeans is a great tool with many very useful
plugins that are much better than Idea... But the editor is so great...
And I really want to switch.
So any hints are very welcome.
Thanks,
Johannes Schneider
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SCWells72 Posted via mailing list.
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:47 pm Post subject: Intellij Idea user wants to switch.... |
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Hmmmm...okay. Try downloading it from here:
http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=134045
Like I said, I have a newer version on my local laptop that I'll upload as
well. It properly maps F2 for next error, CTRL-J for code templates (I
think), Change method params is bindable now, SHIFT-F7 for IDEA 7's new Step
Into selector and F7 for Step Into Next Method, etc.
Scott
Ryan de Laplante wrote:
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I don't see the IDEA keymaps in Tools --> Options --> Keymap. Only
NetBeans, Emacs, Eclipse, NetBeans 5.5.
SCWells72 wrote:
| Quote: | Take a look at the thread I created here:
http://www.nabble.com/Everyday-usage-gap-analysis-between-NetBeans-6.0-and-IntelliJ-IDEA-to14845016.html
giving a first-pass gap analysis between IDEA and NetBeans 6.0. Some of
these have been partially addressed in 6.1 and the upcoming 6.5, but
honestly, there are still some significant features missing from NetBeans
that are part of my everyday workflow in IDEA.
Having said that, I've created an IDEA keymap for NetBeans that allows an
IDEA user to be pretty comfortable there. I believe it's even part of
6.5
now, though I have a more recent version that binds additional keys based
on
both oversights and some gap closure in the newer versions. I'm happy to
share it if you'd like.
Regards,
Scott
Johannes Schneider-5 wrote:
| Quote: | Hi,
I am a user of IntelliJ Idea since many, many years.
The most important part for me is the really great editor: It is really
smart and offers great refactoring possibilities.
That editor saves me a bunch of key presses. It enables me to create
code a lot faster than those guys using Eclipse around me.
There is just one problem with Idea: It is not free. And at the moment I
try to only work with free (as in speech) software.
The last (important) step remaining is my IDE.
So now my question:
Are there some users who switched to Netbeans from Idea? What
experiences did you make with the Netbeans editor?
I have read, that it has improved greatly since 5.0. But I am still
missing some important features (e.g. "complete statement").
Is there any chance that it will improve further and reach eye level
with Idea?
What about refactorings? Compared to Idea?
Don't get me wrong: Netbeans is a great tool with many very useful
plugins that are much better than Idea... But the editor is so great...
And I really want to switch.
So any hints are very welcome.
Thanks,
Johannes Schneider
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:35 pm Post subject: Re: Intellij Idea user wants to switch.... |
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| SCWells72 wrote: | Hmmmm...okay. Try downloading it from here:
http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=134045
Like I said, I have a newer version on my local laptop that I'll upload as
well. It properly maps F2 for next error, CTRL-J for code templates (I
think), Change method params is bindable now, SHIFT-F7 for IDEA 7's new Step
Into selector and F7 for Step Into Next Method, etc.
Scott
Ryan de Laplante wrote:
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I don't see the IDEA keymaps in Tools --> Options --> Keymap. Only
NetBeans, Emacs, Eclipse, NetBeans 5.5.
SCWells72 wrote:
| Quote: | Take a look at the thread I created here:
http://www.nabble.com/Everyday-usage-gap-analysis-between-NetBeans-6.0-and-IntelliJ-IDEA-to14845016.html
giving a first-pass gap analysis between IDEA and NetBeans 6.0. Some of
these have been partially addressed in 6.1 and the upcoming 6.5, but
honestly, there are still some significant features missing from NetBeans
that are part of my everyday workflow in IDEA.
Having said that, I've created an IDEA keymap for NetBeans that allows an
IDEA user to be pretty comfortable there. I believe it's even part of
6.5
now, though I have a more recent version that binds additional keys based
on
both oversights and some gap closure in the newer versions. I'm happy to
share it if you'd like.
Regards,
Scott
Johannes Schneider-5 wrote:
| Quote: | Hi,
I am a user of IntelliJ Idea since many, many years.
The most important part for me is the really great editor: It is really
smart and offers great refactoring possibilities.
That editor saves me a bunch of key presses. It enables me to create
code a lot faster than those guys using Eclipse around me.
There is just one problem with Idea: It is not free. And at the moment I
try to only work with free (as in speech) software.
The last (important) step remaining is my IDE.
So now my question:
Are there some users who switched to Netbeans from Idea? What
experiences did you make with the Netbeans editor?
I have read, that it has improved greatly since 5.0. But I am still
missing some important features (e.g. "complete statement").
Is there any chance that it will improve further and reach eye level
with Idea?
What about refactorings? Compared to Idea?
Don't get me wrong: Netbeans is a great tool with many very useful
plugins that are much better than Idea... But the editor is so great...
And I really want to switch.
So any hints are very welcome.
Thanks,
Johannes Schneider
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I just want to know how to use it?
I donwload the zip file ,but I don't know how to use it?
could you help me ? |
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Johannes Schneider Posted via mailing list.
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:19 pm Post subject: Intellij Idea user wants to switch.... |
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Thanks for your answer.
I have been afraid that it is still a long way for the netbeans
editor...
So I think I will wait till 6.5 and try this version again...
The keymap is a good idea. I will try that out. Thanks.
Johannes
On Fri, 2008-09-19 at 11:42 -0700, SCWells72 wrote:
| Quote: | Take a look at the thread I created here:
http://www.nabble.com/Everyday-usage-gap-analysis-between-NetBeans-6.0-and-IntelliJ-IDEA-to14845016.html
giving a first-pass gap analysis between IDEA and NetBeans 6.0. Some of
these have been partially addressed in 6.1 and the upcoming 6.5, but
honestly, there are still some significant features missing from NetBeans
that are part of my everyday workflow in IDEA.
Having said that, I've created an IDEA keymap for NetBeans that allows an
IDEA user to be pretty comfortable there. I believe it's even part of 6.5
now, though I have a more recent version that binds additional keys based on
both oversights and some gap closure in the newer versions. I'm happy to
share it if you'd like.
Regards,
Scott
Johannes Schneider-5 wrote:
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Hi,
I am a user of IntelliJ Idea since many, many years.
The most important part for me is the really great editor: It is really
smart and offers great refactoring possibilities.
That editor saves me a bunch of key presses. It enables me to create
code a lot faster than those guys using Eclipse around me.
There is just one problem with Idea: It is not free. And at the moment I
try to only work with free (as in speech) software.
The last (important) step remaining is my IDE.
So now my question:
Are there some users who switched to Netbeans from Idea? What
experiences did you make with the Netbeans editor?
I have read, that it has improved greatly since 5.0. But I am still
missing some important features (e.g. "complete statement").
Is there any chance that it will improve further and reach eye level
with Idea?
What about refactorings? Compared to Idea?
Don't get me wrong: Netbeans is a great tool with many very useful
plugins that are much better than Idea... But the editor is so great...
And I really want to switch.
So any hints are very welcome.
Thanks,
Johannes Schneider
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