Configuring line ending style

[saul]

Hi,

I snooped around in configuration settings of Netbean but could not find the subsection for toggling between "CRLF" and "LF". How can I do it?

[Bob McConnell]

From: saul

[VilaRestal]

[pbw]

Have you created a test class to extract the line.separator property and compare it with \012, \015 and \015\012?
System.getProperty("line.separator")

Peter West

"...do not be faithless, but believing."

On 27/08/2010, at 4:54 AM, VilaRestal wrote:

[Bob McConnell]

From: VilaRestal

[VilaRestal]

[pbw]

It's trivial to create a project in NetBeans, and add the required code to main(), run the code, then delete the project. I did it myself in less than 5 minutes. If you do it, you will know exactly what your Java version thinks the line separator is. In your circumstances, I would be curious about that.

Alternatively, if you have bsh.jar on your system,
$ java -jar /path/to/bsh.jar
In the bsh console,
bsh % sep=System.getProperty("line.separator");
bsh % print(sep.equals("\012") ? "LF" : sep.equals("\015") ? "CR" : sep.equals("\015\012") ? "CRLF" : "???");

Peter West

"...do not be faithless, but believing."

On 30/08/2010, at 5:21 AM, VilaRestal wrote:

[VilaRestal]

Thanks Peter but i do know it uses LF (it's hardly likely to use CR) in the templates so it will always stick with LF in those files. Let me guess: yours is LF too? (and every other NetBeans ever).

There are bug reports about this (going back to the dawn of NetBeans I assume). They just get ignored.

It seems that if the developers themselves don't need a feature they won't bother implementing it no matter how many requests are made or how simple it would be: A days work at the most for 1 of them to add 3 radio buttons to Project Properties that change the default new line ending and find and replace existing file endings.

I'm beginning to see why the GUI editor is so bad (massively over-complicated un-editable designer-generated code + inability to open classes in design that don't have this code): The development process ignores feedback from users.

So, we have a code editor that's worse than many text editors (can't configure line-endings - what else? i wonder) (only benefit over them is a debugger) and a GUI designer that won't design GUIs unless they're its very own unaltered GUIs. (Other java IDEs can do these things quite happily incidentally.)

And no NetBeans admins can be bothered to explain either how I'm wrong (how these things can be done in NetBeans) or to assure people that these issues are being worked on or even just to apologise that people aren't finding it as functional as they had hoped.

I know it's free but, if they're not going to care whether people like it, why bother publishing it in the first place?

But back to the topic: Either I go through all the templates changing all the line endings or never use templates (no more GUI designer) or never use NetBeans.

3 guesses which of them I go for.

[pbw]

Yes, mine is LF, but my point was that it's not NetBeans that is determining that. It's Java. That's why I asked the question. And if Java is assuming the line endings, it's not a trivial matter to override them for certain files. Well-behaved JAVA programs will use the system property when manipulating files, so it's not a day's work - it's a huge can of worms.

(Incidentally I'm surprised that Java on OS X uses LF endings, because I was so used to hearing that Mac used CR endings. However, I find that when I create a text file with TextEdit, I get LF endings, so it must be system-wide.)

Peter West

"...do not be faithless, but believing."

On 01/09/2010, at 6:02 PM, VilaRestal wrote:

[digital.discuss]

Peter B. West mentioned:

[pbw]

Thanks!

Peter West

"...do not be faithless, but believing."

On 04/09/2010, at 3:23 AM, MB wrote:

[Peter B. West]

I just tried this in a VM running XP, and the line.separator system property there is CRLF.

Peter West

"...do not be faithless, but believing."

On 03/09/2010, at 12:35 PM, Peter B. West wrote:

[VilaRestal]

We're talking about the java files!(?) The java compiler or virtual machine is not involved. It is entirely NetBeans choice of line endings without a doubt.

It is because the templates it uses have LF and it uses the same line ending as is originally in the file.

The only way round it is to find and replace all LFs with CRLFs in all templates and all files.

Annoyingly time-consuming process to do what a decent text editor can do. I'd think a decent IDE should be able to do it too but then I'd think a decent IDE should be able to do a lot of things that NetBeans can't.

[pbw]

I think I misread your complaint, I'm sorry.

It's _only_ the templates that are the problem, isn't it? I just tried creating a project in my XP VM, and the lines I added to a file, as expected, had CRLF line endings. However, the template components of the file have LF endings.

What's your bug number?

Peter West

"...do not be faithless, but believing."

On 04/09/2010, at 11:41 PM, VilaRestal wrote:

[Orltean]

-J-Dline.separator=LF

would force creation of new files in UNIX style