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sonemonu



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Location: Cartagena / Colombia

PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:27 pm    Post subject: PRADO Framework Support Reply with quote

Hi all,

I created this topic with the purpose of that all us put a reply with his vote a favor of implement Support
for the PRADO Framework on the next Version of NetBeans 6.5
, that would be a dream come true! Surprised


Related topics on the PRADO Forum:
http://www.pradosoft.com/forum/index.php/topic,10762.0.html
http://www.pradosoft.com/forum/index.php/topic,10605.0.html

PRADO Website:
www.pradosoft.com


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ppisl



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:46 pm    Post subject: Re: PRADO Framework Support Reply with quote

Hello,

the basic support can be done very quickly. Unfortunately I don't know PRADO framework, so tell me what you need / want. The module for supporting PRADO can be developed independently on the NetBeans releases.

Regards,
Petr
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sonemonu



Joined: 15 Aug 2008
Posts: 8
Location: Cartagena / Colombia

PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I would like (and I think everyone that used PRADO) is having a good autocompletion while working with the PRADO Templates.
There is something done for DreamWeaver, Eclipse, and InType but those are outdated.

The templates are inside the following directories of the PRADO Framework:
    Web/UI/WebControls
    Web/UI/ActiveWebControls


I attached the currently DreamWeaver - PRADO Templates (outdated).
I attached the currently InType Editor - PRADO Templates.
I attached the currently Eclipse - PRADO Templates (outdated).

Topic about IDE/Editor for PRADO:
http://www.pradosoft.com/forum/index.php/board,12.0.html

About Web UI Controls
http://www.pradosoft.com/docs/manual/li_System.Web.UI.WebControls.html

About Web UI Active Controls
http://www.pradosoft.com/docs/manual/li_System.Web.UI.ActiveControls.html

To download the PRADO Framework
http://www.pradosoft.com/download/



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Thanhd



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am trying out Netbean for PHP and would love support for the PRADO framework to be implemented.
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izvictor



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:59 am    Post subject: Re: Re: PRADO Framework Support Reply with quote

Hello,
I'm a project engineer in France , PRADO support in netbeans could be very usefull. For the moment there is not many IDE(s) that support completely PRADO framework and PRADO auto-completition tags. There is PHPEdit and PHPed, but they are commercial and windows only, so a netbeans plugin could make much more easier PHP development on any systems.

Thank you.
Greetings from France.
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Petr Pisl
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:52 pm    Post subject: PRADO Framework Support Reply with quote

Thanks for the feedback. I'm planing to look at this framework.

Regards,
Petr
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Hello,

I'm a project engineer in France , PRADO support in netbeans could be very usefull. For the moment there is not many IDE(s) that support completely PRADO framework and PRADO auto-completition tags. There is PHPEdit and PHPed, but they are commercial and windows only, so a netbeans plugin could make much more easier PHP development on any systems.



Thank you.

Greetings from France.





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aaron_sanford



Joined: 19 Aug 2008
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Location: Metro Detroit, MI

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: Another vote to include Prado support in Netbeans Reply with quote

I'd like to add my vote in support of this idea. I've been using Netbeans quite extensively for Prado development, and robust official support for this framework would be a huge boon.
Given the following trends:
>desire for more mature IDE-support seems to be growing within the Prado community,

>increased adoption of Prado generally(I've personally noticed an uptick in Prado usage here among suppliers within the SE Michigan / Metro Detroit Area),

>recent maturation of Netbeans as a top-notch PHP development tool,

I could see it attracting a significant number of new users and contributors to Netbeans.
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clementchen



Joined: 20 Aug 2008
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:42 am    Post subject: Another vote to include PRADO support in NetBeans Reply with quote

Hi, it's my pleasure to vote PRADO support in NetBeans. I began to use NetBeans few months ago, and am quite glad to see it support more languages such as Ruby (RoR) and PHP. PRADO is a special framework in web development with PHP. Its documentations are rich and its forum is quite friendly to all people. My problem when learning it is that I couldn't memorize thost many methods/properties all the time. So I believe that NetBeans with PRADO support will win more and more PHP users to join!
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mp



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just want to say - it would be a great feature.
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knut



Joined: 20 Aug 2008
Posts: 4
Location: Oslo, NORWAY

PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:50 pm    Post subject: +1 Reply with quote

On behalf of the PRADO Development Team I just want to say that native support for the PRADO Framework in NetBeans would be great and could be an addition that adds significant value to PHP developers currently using or evaluating NetBeans as their IDE of choice.

Some background information about this topic:

In 2006 Jason Minard started this thread on the PRADO forum where Zend showed some interest in creating a RAD tool for PHP. Right after that at php|tek 2006 Andi Gutmans gave a keynote demonstrating an experimental RAD tool for PHP codenamed phpBlox and Jayson Minard wrote the article "Dipping a Toe into Rapid Application Development for PHP" on Zend Developer Zone.

After this we haven't heard anything about RAD tools for PHP from Zend.

One year after this (May 2007) S├ębastien Hordeaux and WaterProof Software releases PHPEdit 2.12 with PRADO support including syntax highlighting, code insight, jump to declaration and code hinting.

Around the same time CodeGear introduced the first version of Delphi for PHP and open sourced their VCL 4 PHP framework which together seems like the most complete RAD tool for PHP developers to date because of it's visual designer.

Looking at the list of PHP Frameworks the only frameworks that compete directly with PRADO when it comes to event driven programming is QPHP and VCL 4 PHP.

I hope this was helpful information for you to see the possibilities Smile (check out some quotes from PRADO developers)
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Petr Pisl
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:43 pm    Post subject: PRADO Framework Support Reply with quote

Thanks for the information. I'm going to look at the PRADO framework. It
looks like there are many people, who are asking for this.

But as I have already written somewhere, is not possible to add the
support into the final version of NetBeans 6.5 . As the best way, how it
can be done, is to start to create the support outside the main release,
create something usable for NetBeasn 6.5 and place it on the NetBeans
6.5 update center. After this stabilize the support and add more
features for the next version of NetBeans.

But there is condition, that I will have enough time to do it or someone
from community could help me with this.

Thanks,
Petr
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On behalf of the PRADO Development Team I just want to say that native support for the PRADO Framework in NetBeans would be great and could be an addition that adds significant value to PHP developers currently using or evaluating NetBeans as their IDE of choice.



Some background information about this topic:



In 2006 Jason Minard (http://devzone.zend.com/member/3-Jayson-Minard-editor) started this thread (http://www.pradosoft.com/forum/index.php/topic,4282.0.html) on the PRADO forum where Zend showed some interest in creating a RAD tool for PHP. Right after that at php|tek 2006 Andi Gutmans gave a keynote demonstrating an experimental RAD tool for PHP codenamed phpBlox (http://www.urdalen.com/blog/?p=178) and Jayson Minard wrote the article "Dipping a Toe into Rapid Application Development for PHP (http://devzone.zend.com/node/view/id/216)" on Zend Developer Zone (http://devzone.zend.com).



After this we haven't heard anything about RAD tools for PHP from Zend.



One year after this (May 2007) S├ębastien Hordeaux and WaterProof Software (http://www.waterproof.fr/) releases PHPEdit 2.12 with PRADO support (http://www.waterproof.fr/blog/index.php?/archives/8-PHPEdit-as-a-Prado-IDE.html#extended) including syntax highlighting, code insight (http://doc.waterproof.fr/phpedit/editing_files/code_insight/prado_features), jump to declaration (http://doc.waterproof.fr/phpedit/navigation_search/jump_to_declaration/supported_contexts#prado) and code hinting (http://doc.waterproof.fr/phpedit/editing_files/code_hint/using_code_hint#prado).



Around the same time CodeGear introduced the first version of Delphi for PHP (http://www.codegear.com/products/delphi/php) and open sourced their VCL 4 PHP framework (http://www.qadram.com/vcl4php/) which together seems like the most complete RAD tool for PHP developers to date because of it's visual designer.



Looking at the list of PHP Frameworks (http://www.phpframeworks.com) the only frameworks that compete directly with PRADO when it comes to event driven programming is QPHP (http://qphp.net/) and VCL 4 PHP (http://www.qadram.com/vcl4php/).



I hope this was helpful information for you to see the possibilities Smile (check out some quotes from PRADO developers (http://www.phpframeworks.com/php-frameworks/index.php?id=10))





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sonemonu



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:54 pm    Post subject: Re: PRADO Framework Support Reply with quote

Petr Pisl wrote:
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But there is condition, that I will have enough time to do it or someone
from community could help me with this.

Thanks,
Petr


Sure Smile, I can help with this (I think there could be more interested people on help).

Can you give me some information that can be useful to understand the creation process of a Plugins for NetBeans? please.


Best regards,

Roger Padilla

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:11 pm    Post subject: PRADO Framework Support Reply with quote

Cool. Do you have any experience with Java? I can take care about the
NetBeans process and set up the project in NetBeans repository.

On the other hand we should start with a document that will describe,
what the support should do. Collect information and evaluate, what can
be done. So we can start with this document. What do you think?

Regards,
Petr
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Best regards,



Roger Padilla



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sonemonu



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:16 pm    Post subject: Re: PRADO Framework Support Reply with quote

Yes, my experience in Java is in J2SE (swing, threads, collections, generics, sockets, jdbc, jpa).

I'm agree with create the document containing the initials requirements
about what should do the plugin as first instance.
We can classify the tasks by stages, giving them different priorities.

Greetings from Cartagena / Colombia
Roger Padilla


Petr Pisl wrote:
Cool. Do you have any experience with Java? I can take care about the
NetBeans process and set up the project in NetBeans repository.

On the other hand we should start with a document that will describe,
what the support should do. Collect information and evaluate, what can
be done. So we can start with this document. What do you think?

Regards,
Petr

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knut



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:38 pm    Post subject: PRADO IDE Requirements Reply with quote

I've started on a requirements specification here:
http://www.pradosoft.com/wiki/index.php/PRADO_IDE_Requirements

Please add your requirements here and we can use this thread to discuss it.

Regards,
Knut Urdalen
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