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melnikod



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:59 pm    Post subject: NetBeans for Android Reply with quote

Hi! Can we expect a version of netbeans for Android?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:55 pm    Post subject: NetBeans for Android Reply with quote

there's a plugin for android. why should there be a totally separate IDE for it?
tom

On Oct 28, 2011, at 9:59 AM, melnikod wrote:

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Hi! Can we expect a version of netbeans for Android?



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melnikod



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you have not quite understood. I want to be able to programing in php such as asus eee pad transformer
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Fabrizio Giudici
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:24 am    Post subject: NetBeans for Android Reply with quote

On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 16:54:18 +0200, Thomas Wolf <address-removed>
wrote:

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there's a plugin for android. why should there be a totally separate
IDE for it?
tom

I add that if you like Maven, you can use the maven-android-plugin and
enjoy the better IDE with Maven support :-)

There are thing to do, still, like having the support of the Android
plugin when using Maven.


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Peter Ford
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:00 am    Post subject: NetBeans for Android Reply with quote

On 30/10/11 10:23, Fabrizio Giudici wrote:
Quote:
On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 16:54:18 +0200, Thomas Wolf <address-removed>
wrote:

Quote:
there's a plugin for android. why should there be a totally separate
IDE for it?
tom

I add that if you like Maven, you can use the maven-android-plugin and
enjoy the better IDE with Maven support :-)

There are thing to do, still, like having the support of the Android
plugin when using Maven.



I suspect that the original poster meant a port of NetBeans to the Android OS.
I think it would be possible, but probably pretty unusable, given the
constraints of a touch screen / virtual keyboard / lightweight processor etc.
Most Android machines just won't have enough screen real estate to work on a
reasonable project, and not enough RAM to run a heavyweight Java program like
NetBeans.

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Fabrizio Giudici
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:44 am    Post subject: NetBeans for Android Reply with quote

On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:59:21 +0100, Peter Ford <address-removed> wrote:


Quote:
I suspect that the original poster meant a port of NetBeans to the
Android OS.

Hell of a question.

Quote:
I think it would be possible, but probably pretty unusable, given the
constraints of a touch screen / virtual keyboard / lightweight processor
etc.
Most Android machines just won't have enough screen real estate to work
on a reasonable project, and not enough RAM to run a heavyweight Java
program like NetBeans.

Don't know about the requirements: actually, we're going to see quad core
tablets, some tables have got a keyboard (and USB support, so you can plug
a mouse) and the solid state disk would be faster. So, who knows? It could
work.

The problem is that there's not a full Java runtime running on Dalvik -
for instance, the whole Swing is missing and NetBeans relies upon it.

So the question just translates to having an OpenJDK port to Android.
IcedRobot is the thing (http://www.icedrobot.org/). I don't know its
current status.



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Glenn Holmer
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:54 pm    Post subject: NetBeans for Android Reply with quote

On Mon, 2011-10-31 at 08:59 +0000, Peter Ford wrote:
Quote:
I suspect that the original poster meant a port of NetBeans to the
Android OS.

That would be a pretty bizarre question, if you ask me.

But what about support for writing Android apps in NetBeans? What is the
state of the art there? I may be asked to do this in the near future,
and would naturally want to use my beloved NetBeans.

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Javier Ortiz
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:14 pm    Post subject: NetBeans for Android Reply with quote

The question seems to be the other way around, create NetBeans application that run on Android. There's an Android plugin to create Android apps on the IDE.



Senior Software Quality Engineer
ArthroCare Corporation
7000 William Cannon Drive
Austin, TX 78735
Phone: 512-358-5996
email: address-removed

-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn Holmer [mailto:address-removed]
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 9:53 AM
To: address-removed
Subject: [nbusers] Re: NetBeans for Android

On Mon, 2011-10-31 at 08:59 +0000, Peter Ford wrote:
Quote:
I suspect that the original poster meant a port of NetBeans to the
Android OS.

That would be a pretty bizarre question, if you ask me.

But what about support for writing Android apps in NetBeans? What is the
state of the art there? I may be asked to do this in the near future,
and would naturally want to use my beloved NetBeans.

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Software Engineer phone: 414-908-1809
Weyco Group, Inc. fax: 414-908-1601

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:54 pm    Post subject: NetBeans for Android Reply with quote

On Mon, 2011-10-31 at 08:13 -0700, Javier Ortiz wrote:
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The question seems to be the other way around, create NetBeans
application that run on Android. There's an Android plugin to create
Android apps on the IDE.

Are you talking about nbandroid?

http://www.nbandroid.org/

What do those of you who've used it think? Does it work well? Does it
compare well to developing Android apps using other tools?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:59 pm    Post subject: NetBeans for Android Reply with quote

I just did a quick evaluation, not a full application, and everything seemed fine just following a simple tutorial. There should be someone with a real experience to answer.



Senior Software Quality Engineer
ArthroCare Corporation
7000 William Cannon Drive
Austin, TX 78735
Phone: 512-358-5996
email: address-removed


-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn Holmer [mailto:address-removed]
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 10:53 AM
To: address-removed
Subject: [nbusers] Re: NetBeans for Android

On Mon, 2011-10-31 at 08:13 -0700, Javier Ortiz wrote:
Quote:
The question seems to be the other way around, create NetBeans
application that run on Android. There's an Android plugin to create
Android apps on the IDE.

Are you talking about nbandroid?

http://www.nbandroid.org/

What do those of you who've used it think? Does it work well? Does it
compare well to developing Android apps using other tools?

--
____________________________________________________________
Glenn Holmer address-removed
Software Engineer phone: 414-908-1809
Weyco Group, Inc. fax: 414-908-1601

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djohnson
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:51 pm    Post subject: NetBeans for Android Reply with quote

I've been using the Android plug-in in Netbeans 6.8 for over a year now.
I've published one app and have two more under development.
It was a bit of grope-and-fumble to get it set up initially but once I'd
found my way through the little hoops it was fine. I have notes if
anyone is interested in this particular configuration.

I did install NB 7 and added the updated plug-in but that was a disaster
as I use common packages on the desktop and the Android app(syncing
between the two) and that didn't appear to be doable in the plug-in for
7.0.

Someday I'll take another crack at 7.x....

David Johnson

On Mon, 2011-10-31 at 08:58 -0700, Javier Ortiz wrote:
Quote:
I just did a quick evaluation, not a full application, and everything seemed fine just following a simple tutorial. There should be someone with a real experience to answer.



Senior Software Quality Engineer
ArthroCare Corporation
7000 William Cannon Drive
Austin, TX 78735
Phone: 512-358-5996
email: address-removed


-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn Holmer [mailto:address-removed]
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 10:53 AM
To: address-removed
Subject: [nbusers] Re: NetBeans for Android

On Mon, 2011-10-31 at 08:13 -0700, Javier Ortiz wrote:
Quote:
The question seems to be the other way around, create NetBeans
application that run on Android. There's an Android plugin to create
Android apps on the IDE.

Are you talking about nbandroid?

http://www.nbandroid.org/

What do those of you who've used it think? Does it work well? Does it
compare well to developing Android apps using other tools?
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Jeffrey H. Coffield
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:05 pm    Post subject: NetBeans for Android Reply with quote

On 10/31/2011 07:53 AM, Glenn Holmer wrote:
Quote:
On Mon, 2011-10-31 at 08:59 +0000, Peter Ford wrote:
Quote:
I suspect that the original poster meant a port of NetBeans to the
Android OS.
That would be a pretty bizarre question, if you ask me.

But what about support for writing Android apps in NetBeans? What is the
state of the art there? I may be asked to do this in the near future,
and would naturally want to use my beloved NetBeans.

I have build one complete app for Android using NetBeans & the biggest
difference I saw was no GUI design tool for the UI. I tried DroidDraw
but finally got one page working & then kept copying and editing the XML
to get all the other pages. Sqlite was fairly straightforward and I
switched from JDOM to SAX for xml parsing as JDOM has (had?) some
problems with Android.

Jeff Coffield
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emahuni



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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 11:21 am    Post subject: Same here Reply with quote

I think we should stick to the question... what the original post asked was to run NB on Android OS. It is not a wierd question, actually, i want the same thing. The reason is that sometimes i find myself away from my main development machine and want to use the tablet to make changes to a php file fast since i move around with my tablet more often than my macbook. All the tools that i find for tablets are not good with handling code and i thought to myself why not run Netbeans on Android.

I think really something should be done to be able to use NETBEANS on Android or at least make one for android or any tablet (it is the future of portable computers anyway, so making real good useful apps for the machines is something that we developers should really do.).
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Fabrizio Giudici
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 9:14 pm    Post subject: NetBeans for Android Reply with quote

On Tue, 15 May 2012 13:21:51 +0200, emahuni <address-removed> wrote:

Quote:
I think we should stick to the question... what the original post asked
was to run NB on Android OS. It is not a wierd question, actually, i
want the same thing. The reason is that sometimes i find myself away
from my main development machine and want to use the tablet to make
changes to a php file fast since i move around with my tablet more
often than my macbook. All the tools that i find for tablets are not
good with handling code and i thought to myself why not run Netbeans on
Android.

I think really something should be done to be able to use NETBEANS on
Android or at least make one for android or any tablet (it is the future
of portable computers anyway, so making real good useful apps for the
machines is something that we developers should really do.).

The only way is to port OpenJDK to Android. NetBeans heavily relies upon
Swing and it's simply crazy to think that somebody rewrites everything for
the Android UI. Of course a straight port of Swing would be greatly
under-optimized on a tablet (e.g. no multitouch, etc...). But I think it
could work.

Time ago I heard about www.icedrobot.org but I don't know whether they're
making any progress.

PS If you ask my opinion, I bet that Oracle has got an internal OpenJDK
port to Android, as well as Sun did for iOS. But I don't know anything
official.


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Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere."
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Pete Ford
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 6:54 am    Post subject: NetBeans for Android Reply with quote

On 15/05/12 22:14, Fabrizio Giudici wrote:
Quote:
On Tue, 15 May 2012 13:21:51 +0200, emahuni <address-removed> wrote:

Quote:
I think we should stick to the question... what the original post
asked was to run NB on Android OS. It is not a wierd question,
actually, i want the same thing. The reason is that sometimes i find
myself away from my main development machine and want to use the
tablet to make changes to a php file fast since i move around with my
tablet more often than my macbook. All the tools that i find for
tablets are not good with handling code and i thought to myself why
not run Netbeans on Android.

I think really something should be done to be able to use NETBEANS on
Android or at least make one for android or any tablet (it is the
future of portable computers anyway, so making real good useful apps
for the machines is something that we developers should really do.).

The only way is to port OpenJDK to Android. NetBeans heavily relies upon
Swing and it's simply crazy to think that somebody rewrites everything
for the Android UI. Of course a straight port of Swing would be greatly
under-optimized on a tablet (e.g. no multitouch, etc...). But I think it
could work.

Time ago I heard about www.icedrobot.org but I don't know whether
they're making any progress.

PS If you ask my opinion, I bet that Oracle has got an internal OpenJDK
port to Android, as well as Sun did for iOS. But I don't know anything
official.



There is a development environment on Android: AIDE.
It works quite well but is not as comprehensive as NetBeans. For simple
Java apps, it doesn't need to be!

Cheers
Pete
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